In this episode, our former CEO Tim Livesey speaks with Nader Abu Amsha, the Executive Secretary of the Department of Service to Palestinian Refugees. Nader shares his experience of being arrested and imprisoned as a young man during the First Intifada, and the ongoing reality of living under Israeli occupation in the West Bank.

He also reflects on the war in Gaza and shares his vision of what the future may look like for Palestinians and Israelis.

Above: Nader Abu Amsha

As a young man growing up in the West Bank, Nader Abu Amsha had a clear plan for the future: he was going to go to the States to study engineering and build a successful career. But all of this changed when he was arrested after being falsely accused of throwing stones at Israeli soldiers on his way to school.

He subsequently spent three months in prison, which cemented within him a new resolve to stay in Bethlehem, live and work there, and peacefully resist the occupation.

In this conversation with Tim, Nader shares what it’s like to live under occupation, why he believes the two-state solution is a no-go, and what he envisions for the future of the Middle East.

This conversation was recorded on 5 March 2024.

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